Cosmology
Welcome to the Cosmology Group
The group is dedicated to discussions revolving around cosmology and cosmological thinking. Everything is fair game, from the science to the pure speculation is within the realm of this group.
We'll discuss all the important topics including:

- Standard Model and the Alternatives
- New Techniques and Technologies
- Controversial Topics
- Current Research and Results
Much
of the thinking in cosmology is speculative and based on a mountain of
assumptions and assertions that in many cases are unproven. This is
specifically associated with the Standard Model or BBT (Big Bang
Theory) where some fundamental principles of what makes a theory sound
have been broken.
At the same time we have controversy there is considerable excitement raging through the field as we are experiencing exponential growth with the tools and the technology. Adaptive optics for example holds the promise of virtually eliminating the distortion brought on by our atmosphere thus allowing Earth based telescopes to see as clearly as Hubble.
The Kepler space telescope will provide a flood of information regarding distant planets, all within a field of around 100 million stars from a carefully chosen region of space. Of course, we also have CERN and the potential for new discoveries and verifications that can provide some direction and clarity for the road forward.
Cosmology is an easy subject to ramble on about as it binds philosophy, science and faith into a single pursuit. If you are interested in pushing your mind then join the group and troll around - great stuff coming in this area of science.
Cosmology: Week Ending [Mar 24]
Last Week in
Cosmology
There hasn't been that much happening in the world of cosmology recently so I decided to pull together a wrap of news items over the last week or so. Like politics, I'll probably do this on a recurring basis but it will most likely become a monthly periodical. This is one of my favorite topics because there is so much that we still don't know and everything we learn changes everything we thought we knew, this is probably a pretty exciting time to be a cosmologist.
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SETIQuest: Help Find Alien Intelligence
SETIQuest Goes Live
As of February 11th, 2010 you are now able to officially join the search for extra-terrestrial intelligence by heading to the SETIQuest site. The site is sponsored by the SETI Institute and TED and is the result of a request made by Jill Tarter after she won the Ted Prize in 2009. Her request was:
empower Earthlings everywhere to become active participants in the ultimate search for cosmic company
The site is making large amounts of SETI data available for the first time and allowing developers as well as non-developers access to it. Apparently there will be a way to visualize the signals such that non-programmers can actually try and visualize something of interest in the data, this seems a little ridiculous but should produce cool looking white noise pictures. For those that don't know, Carl Sagen used Jill Tarter as his model for the book Contact which later became a movie, Jody Foster player the role of Jill. Anyway, trying to extract a pattern from white noise is similar to the fiction of the movie where she (Jody=Jill) was listening for patterns.
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Carl Sagan explains the Drake Equation
Carl Sagan explains the Drake Equation which is the mathematical potential, with many influencing factors, that there are other intelligent living beings somewhere out in our universe. He has always had the ability to relate complicated ideas, through his teachings & films for a better understanding amongst a broader range of people while being very enjoyable to watch & learn.
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Mysteries of How a Star is Born
STAR FORMATION
It seems as though star formation is still much of mystery to astronomers and cosmologists. This is a little surprising given what we claim to know about so many other, less ubiquitous celestial objects.
I've always wondered why our solar system forms such a perfect plane, especially with Pluto rightfully out of the picture as a planet. It seems that the planets would orbit much more like electrons around a nucleus instead of on a perfect (more or less) plane.
I've read several theories on star formation and most come down to the same basic requirement, a catalyst to get gravity going. According to what I've read there are many forces that can act as the catalyst to initiate star formation in a dense hydrogen cloud. In fact, many scientists believe that sound waves act in a way as to start the hydrogen collapsing process and form a star. It isn't hard to imagine a myriad of events that would cause gasous compression and ignite the nuclear fires.
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A Map of Science
MAP OF SCIENCE
I came across this map of science that was posted on Eric Drexler's site back in May, 2009. I've seen other variations of this type of mapping, in fact there are web sites that use these types of algorithyms to generate relationships dynamically - basically its a kind of clustering.
The map below was originally posted in Nature in 2006 under the title "Map of Science", here is a description by the developers at informationesthetics.org:
As to what the image depicts, it was constructed by sorting roughly 800,000 scientific papers into 776 different scientific paradigms (shown as red and blue circular nodes) based on how often the papers were cited together by authors of other papers. Links (curved lines) were made between the paradigms that shared common members, then treated as rubber bands, holding similar paradigms closer to one another when a physical simulation forced them all apart: thus the layout derives directly from the data. Larger paradigms have more papers. Labels list common words unique to each paradigm.
Click on the Image to Interact
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How big is the Universe?
How Big is the Universe? Well...that depends on how you model it.
I've attached a video to a Cosmic Journeys presentation on just this question. I've also included a link to a previous post that discusses the problem with he Big Bang and the perceived age of the Universe. All of the ideas presented in the video are radically different than the general understanding of the age and much more consistent with the requirements of the structure we see.
The video is 20 minutes long and has 3 embedded commercials (Sorry), it is an excellent presentation covering everything from the history to contemporary thinking and measurements. The video also reconciles the work at Brookhaven Labs with the cosmological theories. I recommend not just this video but any from the series. It is crazy how much information and intelligence is available.
So, how big is the Universe? Let's see...
Hubble originally looked and made the measurement that are now accepted as the size/age of the Universe - 13.7 Billion Light Years. Hubble was recalibrated and again looked at the most distant galaxies it could see, when the expansion rate was factored in the Universe is roughly 46 Billion Light Year to the south and to the north, translating to a size/age of roughly 92 Billion Light Years! Keep in mind that this measurement is based on a straight forward model of the Big Bang (which is almost certainly wrong!).
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Book Review: A Short History of Nearly Everything
A Short History of Nearly Everything
by Bill Bryson
Comment: "I read the book twice, listened to the audio book several times and now I'm waiting for the movie! One of my all time favorites. The title is extremely accurate."
This is one of my all time favorite books, it is superbly written and covers well, nearly everything. He venture through almost every aspect of science and in a very engaging way. The audio book is fantastic as well, it is read by an English actor that injects the right inflection and maintains a good momentum through the book - he'll make you laugh.
If there is a book to read that will make you feel better and smarter at the same time, this is the book. I wish he'd write a follow on, although he didn't leave much out of this one.
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Cosmology Quest Videos Overview
There are several sets of these videos, they are good in that they provide an alternative point of view and raise some interesting issues for the standard model. There are several problems with the Big Bang Theory (BBT) that are outlined in this video series, these are highlighted below:
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Cosmology Quest II
More videos that are worth watching. The link at the bottom of this page will take you to an explanation of these videos.
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Cosmology Quest
Here are some video links that are worth watching. There is a link to the blog entry that describes the videos at the end of this article (below the last video).
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Dawkins Krauss Discussion Overview
A great discussion by two heavyweights in science to be sure, focused very much on education but digresses into various areas of science like cosmology and biology.
I originally started by summarizing each video before I realized that a single summary will get it done, the discussion spends more time on evolution then on education. Lots of God bashing, both direct and indirect - some even covert, why does it always have to resolve itself into personal biases and bashing? I inject my own opinion about these talks so be prepared to disagree with me.
Larry is an excellent orator and makes this worth watching, even though it gets (and stays) off topic for the majority of the video. These guys are incredibly arrogant, so smart they have it all figured out - amazing.
In my opinion, for all the good they do they are locked into the paradigm of the establishment - in fact, they are the establishment. Both are active and great communicators of science but both believe they have the answers already and anyone with an alternative view is well, stupid. Classic.
Dawkins refers to Christopher Hitchens as being more hated than him, not sure that's true. I personally have a lot more respect for Hitchens than I do for Dawkins, but I digress. Back to the videos.
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Large Scale Structure vs Age of the Universe
It seems incredible that we see the amount of large scale structure we see and to believe that it was formed in just 13.73 billion years. I know, that's a really, really long time so why shouldn't it be enough? There are some great sites that describe the Universe in terms of scale and structure, the link here describes the large scale structure in terms of light. Here is the wikipedia article that explains the age of the universe.
The fact that Universe had to go through so many steps in order to generate such structure certainly leads me to believe that we have grossly underestimated the age of the Universe. The isn't a stretch by any means, determining the age of the Earth proved to be incredibly difficult so imagine trying to peg the Universe's birthday. That said, it would be nice if the scientific establishment owned up to the fact that there is a good chance they are wrong. Instead, people like Larry Krauss run around indicating (with such arrogance) that they have figured out the age of the Universe to 4 decimal places!
Here are three images that show the evolution of structure, the box is 43 million parsecs or 140 million light years - a pretty small portion of the sky but since the Universe is both isotropic and homogeneous it doesn't matter, any selection would produce the exact same results (on average).
This images is @ z=0

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Dawkins Krauss Discussion - Part 1
This is a 12 part video series, I am breaking it up into 3 post each with 4 videos. The links to the other video posts are at the bottom of this article along with a link to my summary of the discussion. Enjoy!
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Dawkins Krauss Discussion - Part 2
part 2 (4 videos)
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Dawkins Krauss Discussion - Part 3
the final videos.
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Big Questions in Cosmology
This is from the NPR show: Science Friday with Ira Flatow. The title of the program is the same as this entry, Big Questions in Cosmology. The heavy hitters came out to play including Krauss, Weinberg and Greene, the list is below:
Guests
Steven Weinberg
Professor of Physics and Astronomy
The University of Texas at Austin
Nobel Prize, 1979, Physics
Austin, Texas
Michael Turner
Professor, Departments of Astronomy and Astrophysics and Physics
Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics
University of Chicago
Chicago, Illinois
Brian Greene
Professor Mathematics and Physics
Columbia University
New York, New York
Lawrence Krauss
Foundation Professor, School of Earth and Space Exploration and Physics Department
Inaugural Director, Origins Initiative
Arizona State University
Tempe, Arizona
These guys are all very articulate in terms of defining complex ideas, Larry Krauss is especially good at public speaking, he is almost a performer. The picture below represent a diagram of a collision from Fermi labs, these (I think) come out of CERN as well.
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Some Ideas in Cosmology
There exists today in Cosmology no less than several different viable theories of the Universe in terms of both its past and future. Of course, there are two theories that still dominate the theoretical landscape: The Big Bang Theory and of course The Steady State Theory.
Big Bang Theory
The big bang theory is the current dominant idea in terms of establishment thinking, as most folks know the theory has come under considerable scrutiny since the problems with predictions have been a recurring theme of the theory. One pillar of any good theory is its ability to make predictions that can be verified through observations. This has been a problem for BBT sponsors as the theory has been terrible at predicting any observations, this is outlined in detail in other blog entries here (see the links at the bottom of this post).

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Quasars

Quasi-Stellar Radio Sources
These are probably the coolest things in the Universe, they are absolutely the most energetic with outbound energy 1k times great than our entire Milky Way. In fact, the equivalent is solar energy would require about 1 trillion suns! That's impressive considering the size is generally small, typically not larger then out solar system. The official description from Wikipedia is the following:
...there is now a scientific consensus that a quasar is a compact region in the center of a massive galaxy surrounding the central supermassive black hole. Its size is 10-10,000 times the Schwarzschild radius of the black hole. The quasar is powered by an accretion disc around the black hole.
So, as you can see there is apparently scientific consensus on what a Quasar is. From what I've gathered it doesn't seem as if the consensus is overwhelming as many (at least some) scientists still disagree on Quasars at least as far as a consensus goes. It seems as if there are some problems here but conveniently they've been addressed in a traditional way - voodoo.
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Alien Planet Found to be Gigantic Water World
I just an article proclaiming that a planet was found, a Super-Earth that is almost entirely covered in water. Turns out this is the 10th or so planet that seems to have these properties but none of the previous finds were positioned in way for us to confirm those suspicions.
Recently a super-Earth was found orbiting its Sun at a distance that effectively boiled the surface. This particular planet was in geosync orbit with its sun meaning that only one side ever faces that sun. This is similar to our Moon, we never can see the dark-side. Here is a link to a video showing the planets orbit.
To
the left is an artists rendition of the latest find, published December
16th. The newest planet found has a volume roughly 19x that of the
Earth but is only about 6.6x as massive. This volume to mass difference
suggests that the planet may be covered with water. It apparently has
an atmosphere but is too close to its host Red Drwarf star to be
habitable due to the excessive heat.
Finding this planet indicates that these super-Earths form a myriad of ways, most of these processes are only vaguely understood and are based on considerably speculation.
The findings here seem to be a bit of a contradiction in that if it is too hot for life how can it not be too hot for liquid water as well?
The next step is to try and get some time on HST and verify the composition of the planets atmosphere, that should go a long way in determining what it is made of and a little about its history.
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Black Hole Quasar Building Galaxy
I brought this entry in because it has to do with Quasars which are my favorite objects in the Universe, in this particular case the Quasar is being attributed with the acceleration of start formation which in turn will create a galaxy that envelopes this Quasar. Of course this is only one observation but it does point out the potential importance of Quasars in formation of stars and galaxies.
I'm sure that peering deeper into the world of Quasars will provide many answers to the cosmological questions that we are now faced with. I'm also pretty sure that those findings will force science to change the standard model and stop acting like they've already figured it out!
It is only a 60 second sound byte but give a listen.
Black Hole Quasar Building Galaxy - Which
came first, black holes or galaxies? It’s been a bit of a conundrum for
astrophysicists. Black holes are known to devour matter, but did they
arise before or after, the galaxies in which they exist? Now,
scientists say it looks like the black holes build their own galaxies.
The research was published in the journal Astronomy & Astrophysics. Scientists
were checking out a quasar, an incredibly distant, incredibly bright
object. This quasar was the only one without a known host galaxy.
Researchers thought the galaxy must be hidden behind some dust. But
they didn’t find one. What they did find is a nearby galaxy that’s
producing stars at a rapid pace--the equivalent of about 350 suns per
year, a hundred times faster than typical galaxies.
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